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		<title>By: Lake Martin Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ElCo Tax Man Squeezes Lake Martin Property Owners</title>
		<link>http://lakemartinvoice.com/2007/04/09/why-i-give-away-the-milk-for-free/#comment-1354</link>
		<dc:creator>Lake Martin Voice &#187; Blog Archive &#187; ElCo Tax Man Squeezes Lake Martin Property Owners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 22:36:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Lake Martin waterfront home or lot is worth, give me a call.  I would be glad to help you out, no cost, no obligation, no cheesy sales pitch, no guilt.  I promise.  Just buy me a Slim Jim at Nail€™s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Lake Martin waterfront home or lot is worth, give me a call.  I would be glad to help you out, no cost, no obligation, no cheesy sales pitch, no guilt.  I promise.  Just buy me a Slim Jim at Nail€™s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Sadie's Take on Delaware Ohio</title>
		<link>http://lakemartinvoice.com/2007/04/09/why-i-give-away-the-milk-for-free/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Sadie's Take on Delaware Ohio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 05:03:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Consumer-Oriented Carnival Line-Up of the Week...&lt;/strong&gt;

Driving down 315 from Delaware, Ohio to Columbus and Cooper Stadium is a favorite past-time of ours, especially tonight. Nothing beats a great baseball game &#8212; and dime a dog night!*
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<p>Driving down 315 from Delaware, Ohio to Columbus and Cooper Stadium is a favorite past-time of ours, especially tonight. Nothing beats a great baseball game &#8212; and dime a dog night!*<br />
Stuffed with hot dogs - vendor didn&#8217;t have change for a &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: c.a. Marks</title>
		<link>http://lakemartinvoice.com/2007/04/09/why-i-give-away-the-milk-for-free/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>c.a. Marks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:54:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there, I have you listed at my site as well as at the Blog Carnival site itself as the upcoming host for the 23rd. I don't know if the email entries will come straight to you or not. If they come to me first I will forward them to you as soon as I get them. 

This week's edition is up over at The Bull Speaks.

Thanks for volunteering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there, I have you listed at my site as well as at the Blog Carnival site itself as the upcoming host for the 23rd. I don&#8217;t know if the email entries will come straight to you or not. If they come to me first I will forward them to you as soon as I get them. </p>
<p>This week&#8217;s edition is up over at The Bull Speaks.</p>
<p>Thanks for volunteering.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://lakemartinvoice.com/2007/04/09/why-i-give-away-the-milk-for-free/#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 14:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kieran - Thanks for the input, but I think you might be very unfamiliar with Lake Martin.  Cliff is right.  Zillow zestimates are inaccurate on our lake because it is situated in 3 different rural Alabama counties. 1 county is not online at all. The other 2 may not have accurate tax data and do not share mls numbers with zillow.  The main big reason zestimate is inaccurate is because on Lake Martin the lot value is an extremely high % of the value of a home, due to view, waterfront footage, water quality, and a whole host of other factors that currently Zillow can't quantify in our area.  Instead of calling someone "stupid" - perhaps you should research Lake Martin a bit more and get educated.  Feel free to read the rest of the articles on my blog.  Www.lakemartin.com is another good source.  On the forum there I posted my comments on the zillow zestimate as it relates to Lake Martin.  See below.

I think Zillow works the best in neighborhoods that were:

a.) built en masse by the same builder (therefore would have similar finishes) at the same time
b.) have similar lot sizes and grades (to remove lot's value variance as much as possible)
c.) are 2 to 5 years old (old enough to be in the tax records but not too old to have a lot of second owner upgrades)
d.) located in cities / counties with really good tax records that are online and free
e.) located in MLS areas that share real time sold prices data to Zillow.

If you have all of the above, Zillow gets within about 10%. But then again you could probably get within 10% by riding around in the car. once you start (at e moving to a) removing the above, it gets less and less accurate.

For these reasons we're a long way off from having Zillow to be accurate on Lake Martin. Even if we have all of the above, the lot price is so important on the lake, I doubt if I ever would trust it 100%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieran - Thanks for the input, but I think you might be very unfamiliar with Lake Martin.  Cliff is right.  Zillow zestimates are inaccurate on our lake because it is situated in 3 different rural Alabama counties. 1 county is not online at all. The other 2 may not have accurate tax data and do not share mls numbers with zillow.  The main big reason zestimate is inaccurate is because on Lake Martin the lot value is an extremely high % of the value of a home, due to view, waterfront footage, water quality, and a whole host of other factors that currently Zillow can&#8217;t quantify in our area.  Instead of calling someone &#8220;stupid&#8221; - perhaps you should research Lake Martin a bit more and get educated.  Feel free to read the rest of the articles on my blog.  <a href="http://Www.lakemartin.com" rel="nofollow">http://Www.lakemartin.com</a> is another good source.  On the forum there I posted my comments on the zillow zestimate as it relates to Lake Martin.  See below.</p>
<p>I think Zillow works the best in neighborhoods that were:</p>
<p>a.) built en masse by the same builder (therefore would have similar finishes) at the same time<br />
b.) have similar lot sizes and grades (to remove lot&#8217;s value variance as much as possible)<br />
c.) are 2 to 5 years old (old enough to be in the tax records but not too old to have a lot of second owner upgrades)<br />
d.) located in cities / counties with really good tax records that are online and free<br />
e.) located in MLS areas that share real time sold prices data to Zillow.</p>
<p>If you have all of the above, Zillow gets within about 10%. But then again you could probably get within 10% by riding around in the car. once you start (at e moving to a) removing the above, it gets less and less accurate.</p>
<p>For these reasons we&#8217;re a long way off from having Zillow to be accurate on Lake Martin. Even if we have all of the above, the lot price is so important on the lake, I doubt if I ever would trust it 100%.</p>
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		<title>By: KieranMullen</title>
		<link>http://lakemartinvoice.com/2007/04/09/why-i-give-away-the-milk-for-free/#comment-33</link>
		<dc:creator>KieranMullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since zillow is based off of public records and not some data they madeup, perhaps ypyou should look into why it is wrong. It would be stupid to assume that it is their fault. Its like saying news.google.com reports bad news, when they just display info from other souces. ....Flawed logic. 

Perhaps your taxes are lower than they should be.. perhaps you made an addion that was not reported etc..

KieranMullen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since zillow is based off of public records and not some data they madeup, perhaps ypyou should look into why it is wrong. It would be stupid to assume that it is their fault. Its like saying news.google.com reports bad news, when they just display info from other souces. &#8230;.Flawed logic. </p>
<p>Perhaps your taxes are lower than they should be.. perhaps you made an addion that was not reported etc..</p>
<p>KieranMullen</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff</title>
		<link>http://lakemartinvoice.com/2007/04/09/why-i-give-away-the-milk-for-free/#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>Cliff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 13:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Response to comment 1
I just put my lake martin home into Zillow and it gave me the wrong number of beds and baths. It also had no estimate of value and the comparison was on the tax assesment. Zillow is worthless at this point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Response to comment 1<br />
I just put my lake martin home into Zillow and it gave me the wrong number of beds and baths. It also had no estimate of value and the comparison was on the tax assesment. Zillow is worthless at this point.</p>
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		<title>By: KieranMullen</title>
		<link>http://lakemartinvoice.com/2007/04/09/why-i-give-away-the-milk-for-free/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>KieranMullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2007 05:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would you need an agent to price your home?  You can get home comparisons at www.zillow.com and also get an estimator which many banks require anyway.  

KieranMullen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would you need an agent to price your home?  You can get home comparisons at <a href="http://www.zillow.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.zillow.com</a> and also get an estimator which many banks require anyway.  </p>
<p>KieranMullen</p>
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